Shane Cuthbert admits to terrorising his elderly neighbour with dead animals, faking businesses, and exploiting Centrelink. 

🔊In this recorded conversation from May 2023, Shane Cuthbert:

• Admits placing dead cats and birds on his neighbour’s car and doorstep to scare him: “Carefully placed… on his windscreen.”
• Says he disguises himself to avoid being caught on the neighbour’s security cameras.
• Confesses he finds dead animals in the industrial area and uses them for intimidation.
• Laughs about his friend falsely calling Triple Zero to report a stabbing just to see if police would respond.
• Brags that police refuse to attend his property even when serious crimes are reported.
• Says the raid on his home was just a front to illegally seize his laptop.
• Admits his website is full of fake businesses to make authorities think he’s laundering money: “They think there’s more going on… Mongols… organised crime.”
• Mocks Queensland Parliament rules and says he wants to get arrested in front of the media for publicity.
• Admits he hasn’t held a job since he was 18 and lives entirely on Centrelink: “But I have maintained Centrelink.”
• Confirms he has no real income and fakes legitimacy through appearance and fantasy ventures.

⚖️Crimes Committed by Shane Cuthbert

Based on the content of this recorded conversation alone, there is enough evidence to investigate Shane Cuthbert for the following offences:

Offence	Description	Maximum Penalty
Stalking / Intimidation (s.359E Criminal Code Qld)	Harassing neighbour with dead animals and implied threats.	5 years imprisonment
Trespass (s.11 Summary Offences Act Qld)	Entering neighbour’s property to leave dead animals.	1 year imprisonment or fine
Public Nuisance (s.6 Summary Offences Act Qld)	Creating public alarm through harassment and staged police calls.	6 months imprisonment or fine
False Report to Police (s.211 Criminal Code Qld)	Friend’s fake Triple Zero call about a stabbing.	7 years imprisonment
Using False Business Records (s.53 Fair Trading Act Qld)	Creating fake businesses and websites to mislead the public.	$220,000 fine (individual)
Centrelink Fraud (Social Security Act 1991 Cth)	Living off welfare without working or accurately reporting income.	10 years imprisonment

Compare what Shane Cuthbert says in this recording with what he tells A Current Affair. He tells ACA that he doesn’t even have any neighbours and denies threatening Phil (Philip Veivers aka ‘Mouse’).

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[00:00:00.630] – Shane Cuthbert
They’re going to hate that when I open up, obviously. Now, it’s the sale of alcohol is limited to two per person. So, I can still have all my mates here doing BYO, just have a party. It means not only am I exempt from liquor licensing, being able to come in and fucking tell me what to do and regulate. But it also means that I can have the music as loud as I want and I can piss off the neighbor that keeps making complaints from across the street.

[00:00:32.810] – Interviewer
Is that Mousy?

[00:00:33.530] – Shane Cuthbert
Ahh, yeah, old Mousy. Now, Mousy’s on the move because he shit himself. When he saw the amount of police that rocked up that day to raid me, that same day, he put up a post on Facebook saying, “Oh, has anyone got somewhere for me to leave? I need to leave urgently.” He was worried about the repercussions.(laughs)

[00:00:55.480] – Interviewer
He needs to go to the boneyard.

[00:00:56.400] – Shane Cuthbert
He’s been getting all sorts of dead cats and dead, ah, birds and things left on his doorstep and on the bonet of his car. He doesn’t know where they’re coming from, but he thinks it’s a bit creepy. Um, he’s ah..

[00:01:10.530] – Shane Cuthbert
Why have you been putting dead animals on his car?

[00:01:13.060] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah, he’s on the way out, old Mousy.

[00:01:15.900] – Interviewer
Wait, where did you get these dead animals from?

[00:01:18.060] – Shane Cuthbert
Ah just dead animals show up, ya know.

[00:01:21.750] – Interviewer
They show up?

[00:01:25.320] – Shane Cuthbert
(laughs) He’s just shitting his pants.

[00:01:29.710] – Interviewer
Wait, where did they show up? What are you talking about?

[00:01:31.530] – Interviewer
Actually, you know what else is really interesting? I’ll tell you something. I had-

[00:01:34.610] – Interviewer
No no no no, hang on hang on. You’re not killing the animals and then putting them on his property, are you?

[00:01:40.230] – Shane Cuthbert
No. No, I wouldn’t do that.

[00:01:43.670] – Interviewer
You’re finding, what, road kill or something on the road going, “Oh I’ll pull over and grab that. I’ll go put on Mousy’s car.”

[00:01:50.160] – Shane Cuthbert
You know what’s really really interesting is I cannot get police here to this address. Oh, okay so after I got raided, right. I had detectives from Cairns coming by every couple of days, contacting me to let me know that I wasn’t doing anything wrong. So apparently, these Liquor and Gaming officers made a complaint to the detective saying that I was harassing them and threatening them and, I was sending them a bunch of emails calling them real super-sleuths. I, ya know, had the Commissioner onto them. I had the attorney general onto them. You know, I had a lot of people calling them, and they would have been, ya know, under pressure, constantly having to explain their investigation. Anyway, they sent me an email. This regional manager down in Brisbane sent me an email saying, “Oh look, just letting you know, if you continue to email us, it could be seen as harassment.” And I was like, “Oh, no, I’m just, like, asking you for my laptop back because you took my laptop. And, the warrant actually doesn’t say that you can take my personal laptop. So, you know, your warrant’s fucking invalid. Any information on there is invalid. There’s prejudicial information on there, information concerning current court cases, and not just your local magistrate stuff. There’s, ya know, stuff there with the QPS in ah, District Court. There’s stuff against the Labor Party in the Court of Appeal, which is the highest court in Brisbane. You now have access to all this privileged information, blah, blah, blah, blah.” So look, there is a chance…

[00:03:35.050] – Interviewer
(laughs) Currently studying.

[00:03:35.100] – Shane Cuthbert
…that what they’ve got’s inadmissible anyway.

[00:03:37.720] – Interviewer
I clicked on University on your website and it says, Currently studying.(laughs)

[00:03:45.990] – Shane Cuthbert
(laughs) Currently studying. Yeah, well, I was, yeah…

[00:03:48.480] – Interviewer
You are currently studying.

[00:03:49.940] – Shane Cuthbert
I haven’t updated that site in a while, but, yeah I was going to do some like, little courses, umm…like the stuff that you made that I copied.

[00:04:02.780] – Interviewer
Yeah

[00:04:03.500] – Shane Cuthbert
I was going to make some of my own.

[00:04:06.400] – Shane Cuthbert
Right. And what happened with that?

[00:04:07.670] – Shane Cuthbert
I just haven’t got around to it.

[00:04:09.560] – Interviewer
So it was just too hard to make your own one?

[00:04:13.120] – Shane Cuthbert
(laughs)

[00:04:13.260] – Interviewer
Because it did take…

[00:04:14.760] – Shane Cuthbert
It’s a bit hard.

[00:04:16.460] – Interviewer
Yeah, well, it’s not…

[00:04:17.700] – Shane Cuthbert
I just don’t have the time.

[00:04:18.960] – Interviewer
Isn’t there someone else that’s made courses you can just, just copy theirs?

[00:04:24.570] – Shane Cuthbert
(laughs) I um, so they had detectives then coming to tell me, “Oh, Hey, mate, what’s going on?” “Oh nothing much. What are you guys up to?” “Look, we’re just here because we’re concerned, like, just to let you know, like, if you, like threaten the liquor and gaming officers or assault them or something that, like, you know, you’ll just be charged, that’s all.” I was like, “Oh, yeah. Well, look, obviously, I’m not an idiot.” And they’re like, “Oh, yeah look, we’ve read some of your emails. We can tell you’re not an idiot. You’re quite versed in the law.” I was like, “Yeah, so why do you think you would need to come by and tell me that I’m not doing anything wrong?” They’re like, “Oh, look, it’s just come from higher up. We’ve just been asked to come and have a chat just to let you know that if it escalates, ya know…” I was like, “Oh, well, look, it’s not going to escalate. Look, I’m not an idiot. I’m certainly not going to threaten anybody in writing. Like, that would be the dumbest thing ever, and I’m not that dumb.” Um, anyway, they kept coming around, and I was like, “Look, you guys are harassing me. If you keep coming around here to tell me that I’m not committing a crime, that is harassment. You’re harassing me.” Um, anyway, so that was really odd. They just kept trying to give me this police presence for about two weeks. You know, um, and then since then, nothing. So, oh but the police won’t come. So….I kept having people over and having parties, and I thought, “Oh, look, I should just…” I called Triple O one day, and they They said, “Police, fire, or ambulance.” I said, “Oh, just liquor and gaming.” And they’re like, “Oh, sorry Police, fire, or ambulance.” I was like, “Oh, no, just liquor and gaming.” They’re like, “Oh, what’s the emergency?” I was like, “Oh, the bloke here that’s possibly selling alcohol without a liquor license. Like, rhey should come now.” You know. And I thought it would just be funny to have a whole bunch of people there and then for them to rock up again, and. As that was what their investigation, apparently, was about, yet there were people here drinking when they got here, and they didn’t. And I asked one of the detectives about this later, too. I said…okay, so you, so what happened was there was two liquor and gaming officers that come in, but then eight police officers. And I was like, “What the f…what’s this? Eight police officers. We’re in a youth crime crisis. There’s eight police officers here to just stand around. Like what are you guys here for?” They just kept saying, “Oh, we’re just here to support liquor and gaming. Like, we’re, just in case there’s any dramas.” I was like, “Yeah, okay. So you send eight cops out.” Anyway, so I asked one of the detectives, and I go, “Like, what’s the fucking go here? You got eight cops here. You’re investigating, apparently, the alleged sale of alcohol without a liquor license. Right, is what it said on the warrant. Now, you got four blokes standing here all with alcoholic beverages in their hands. Not one of you have asked either of us for our names. What are we drinking? Is it alcohol? Where did we get the alcohol from? Whose alcohol was it? Did we purchase it at the premises? Like it seems like they would be questions that you would ask if that’s what you’re investigating.” And the detective just said, “Oh, but you wouldn’t tell us anyway.” I was like, “Oh, but we wouldn’t tell you anyway. You still ask, Do you rock up at a domestic violence, like, thing and go, “Oh, look, there’s no point, like, even talking to the bloke because, ya know, he’s not going to tell us anyway.”

[00:08:05.530] – Interviewer
Right

[00:08:06.000] – Shane Cuthbert
No, you still ask. Like, that’s your job. That’s the most bullshit answer I’ve ever had.” So the whole raid all just seemed all very suspicious to me. It was all…and all they wanted was my laptop. So there’s something else going on.

[00:08:23.940] – Interviewer
Right

[00:08:24.940] – Shane Cuthbert
Then the fact that major organized crime stopped talking to me as well, said, “Oh look, we need to take a break for a while.” I said, “I guess you can’t tell me why.” And he said, “Nah, mate, we’ll pick up later.” And then he said, then he said something odd. What did he say? He said, “Get yourself sorted.” And I was like, “Oh what do you mean?” He’s just like, “Look, I can’t say. Get, get yourself sorted.” So obviously, at that point, then I had a heads up from major organized crime to know that there was an investigation underway and to “get yourself sorted.” And we had to take a break because there’s something else going on.

[00:09:05.370] – Interviewer
Right. Okay. So on that note…

[00:09:14.820] – Shane Cuthbert
Yes

[00:09:15.600] – Interviewer
…two things stand out. Firstly, um, where is it? I’m on your website. Hang on. What? What the hell is The Plantation, Port Douglas?

[00:09:41.100] – Shane Cuthbert
Oh, well, they were going to be other businesses, but seeing as it took so long for this one to get a license, they don’t exist.

[00:09:53.840] – Interviewer
Right

[00:09:54.180] – Shane Cuthbert
There’s Port Douglas, and then there’s another one.

[00:09:56.500] – Interviewer
You might as well just say you have the state of glory luxury towers in New York as well. You might as well just make up a website that’s a complete fantasy.

[00:10:13.990] – Shane Cuthbert
Yes

[00:10:14.680] – Interviewer
It’s like playing the Sims only in business world, like just a website that makes your… It’s like a solution-focused therapy thing. You just make the website as though it’s the reality that you want..

[00:10:27.420] – Shane Cuthbert
…because instead of them thinking “Okay this guy’s just off chops and just lives in some fantasy world where he makes things up”, they think that there’s a lot like, “Oh, that’s got to be something to do with the major organized crime and the Mongols and then it’s a cover up and they’re going to launder money, and it’s like a big thing”.

[00:10:49.730] – Interviewer
Yes. Now, actually, I have-

[00:10:51.790] – Shane Cuthbert
They think that there’s more going on than there is because when they look at it through their lens, they’re not seeing that,

[00:10:58.030] – Interviewer
You’re crazy

[00:10:58.200] – Shane Cuthbert
“Oh, this guy is clearly fucking mentally retarded or something.”

[00:11:02.070] – Shane Cuthbert
They’re like, “Oh, he’s gone through a lot of elaborate effort for this. Why would he do that? Why would he go through all of that effort?” And the first thing they think of is financial gain, major organized crime. They don’t think he would go through all of that elaborate effort just because-

[00:11:21.260] – Interviewer
Because he’s mentally disabled.

[00:11:22.930] – Shane Cuthbert
He’s Shane Cuthbert and he’s…

[00:11:26.510] – Interviewer
He’s mentally disabled.

[00:11:28.310] – Shane Cuthbert
They’re all probably sitting around scratching their heads thinking… But then I do other stuff that makes them think, “Well, no, he’s actually intelligent and he’s smart and he’s doing law. So he’s not like, he’s not schitzophrenic. He’s not fully retarded.”

[00:11:44.630] – Interviewer
No, he is. (laughs)

[00:11:46.190] – Shane Cuthbert
He’s partly retarded.

[00:11:48.430] – Interviewer
Yes. Well, the thing is, that was the first topic I wanted to mention. The second thing was still, what the fuck is this dead animal thing? Are you finding dead animals? Or are you killing animals?

[00:12:03.530] – Shane Cuthbert
No, I just find them.

[00:12:04.910] – Interviewer
Where do you f…to you go looking for them or do you just-

[00:12:08.440] – Shane Cuthbert
There’s a lot around here for some reason. I don’t know why. They just, they show up.

[00:12:14.590] – Interviewer
What, road kill?

[00:12:17.950] – Shane Cuthbert
(laughs) Basically, I don’t know because I live in the industrial area, so there’s a lot of dumped cats and shit running around, and then there’s a lot of fucking dead birds. A lot of dead birds from next door, so I think they poison them or something like that. I don’t know.

[00:12:31.000] – Interviewer
But you found dead cats?

[00:12:33.290] – Shane Cuthbert
Yes.

[00:12:34.900] – Interviewer
How many?

[00:12:38.190] – Shane Cuthbert
I don’t know. A few, three or four.

[00:12:40.020] – Interviewer
And you didn’t kill them?

[00:12:41.670] – Shane Cuthbert
No.

[00:12:42.920] – Interviewer
And how, have they been dead because they were on the road hit by cars or they just died of an older fucking age?

[00:12:48.780] – Shane Cuthbert
One time, right, I had a friend here who called Triple O and said “there was a little girl here with a knife and she was covered in blood. It looked like she was appeared to be stabbed” and no police attended. I could not get police. This is since the raid. I’ve not been able to get police to the premises. It’s like they got some like, Don’t go there.

[00:13:12.680] – Interviewer
Wait, was there a girl there that would stab wounds?

[00:13:13.490] – Shane Cuthbert
No, there was not.

[00:13:18.030] – Interviewer
So, hang on, a you’re a mate of yours called Triple O saying “there’s a girl here with stab wounds.”

[00:13:25.190] – Shane Cuthbert
Yes.

[00:13:26.120] – Interviewer
And they did not attend?

[00:13:27.690] – Shane Cuthbert
Yes. How odd is that?

[00:13:30.020] – Interviewer
Did the Triple O operator go, “Listen, mate, stop wasting our time, you’re full of shit?”

[00:13:33.660] – Shane Cuthbert
No.

[00:13:35.140] – Interviewer
They took it seriously over the phone?

[00:13:36.980] – Shane Cuthbert
Later that night, I called the police and said, “Look, I want to go to bed. I’ve been up waiting for police to rock up all night because, someone made a false statement to triple O.” And I spoke to the sergeant, and the sergeant said, “I cannot deny or confirm whether police will attend.” I was like, “Look, mate, I’m telling you now, don’t worry about it. You don’t need to attend. No-one’s been stabbed. There’s no children here that have been stabbed, so you don’t need to attend.” He was like, “Oh, it’s up to our discretion.”

[00:14:10.120] – Interviewer
No it’s not.

[00:14:11.230] – Shane Cuthbert
I thought even that was odd because I thought, Hang on a second. Imagine getting a triple O call saying, “Hey, look, there’s someone stabbed here”, then getting another call directly to the police station. Say, “Oh, look, about that triple O call that there’s a kid that’s been stabbed or something, yeah don’t worry about that you don’t need to show up.”

[00:14:28.660] – Interviewer
Wait, why did your friend do this? Were you just trying to mess with the police, or..why did…

[00:14:34.050] – Shane Cuthbert
Well, my friend was.

[00:14:35.860] – Interviewer
He was trying to fuck with the cops?

[00:14:37.130] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah, I didn’t know until a little bit later, and he told me. He was like, “Man, I don’t know why the fucking cops won’t come in.”

[00:14:42.770] – Interviewer
So he was sitting there thinking…well it’s like when you were at that sleepover at your mate’s place years ago, and you’re bored, and you just called the cops, saying you wanted them to arrive. He’s just gone, “Hey, there’s a child here that’s been stabbed.” So all the fucking riot squad and everything would come running, going, “Oh rar rar fucking putting your hands up for the air and full bullshit”, and nothing happened.

[00:15:02.280] – Shane Cuthbert
We actually did have on New Year’s Eve, we actually did have this 13-year-old girl that was off her head, just must have been on drugs. Do you remember I told you about that?

[00:15:11.180] – Interviewer
Is the one who cut her fucking toe off or something on the fence?

[00:15:13.100] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah, got stuck in the fucking fence, like trying to jump the fence, got a foot stuck and a fucking toes hanging off. Yeah, that was fucked. So like they actually have come here in the past because of shit like that’s happened. But yeah I just thought, “Oh, that’s really odd.” Then what happened is I was outside and I was walking up and down the street. I’m just waiting for the cops to rock up. And then these cops do rock up, and I’m listening to the scanner, so they rock up and I got the scanner going, and they’re like, “Oh, are you listening to the scanner?” I was like, “Yeah, I was just seeing what you guys were up to the night, you know…”

[00:15:43.260] – Interviewer
Wait, so Cairns Police don’t have an encrypted radio signal?

[00:15:47.730] – Shane Cuthbert
No. So they go, “Oh mate, we’ve just got some reports that you are walking up and down the street.” And I was like, “Yeah, what’s wrong with that?” They’re like, “Look, mate, we’re just….we’re nothing. Is everything all right?” I was like, “Yeah, everything’s good. It’s all good. How’s your night going?” They’re like, “Oh mate, can we just get a photo of you?” I was like, “A photo of me? Oh all right.” So then they take a photo of me on their iPad, run my name, all that. They’re like, “Oh, yeah, you’re Shane Cuthbert. Okay. Well, can you stop walking up and down the…” I was like, “I’m not committing a crime. I’m not doing anything.” They’re like, :Oh look mate, it’s concerned some people. Some people are concerned.”

[00:16:33.160] – Interviewer
What, that you were cutting laps up and down the street?

[00:16:35.320] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah yeah yeah. And then I was like, “All right, well, look, no worries. I’ll see you later.” Then they left. So that was another odd thing. I mean, someone could have called them just thinking I was going to break into their house or something, maybe. You know.

[00:16:54.920] – Interviewer
So hang on, you found dead cats?

[00:16:58.120] – Shane Cuthbert
Yes.

[00:16:59.110] – Shane Cuthbert
Not on the side of the road, just Just in the industrial area?

[00:17:01.980] – Shane Cuthbert
Why is that so fascinating to you? (laughs)

[00:17:04.260] – Interviewer
How does that even happen?

[00:17:07.030] – Shane Cuthbert
I don’t know.

[00:17:08.070] – Interviewer
I can maybe understand on the side of the road.

[00:17:10.690] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah

[00:17:11.060] – Interviewer
But just in the industrial, like is someone poisoning them or something?

[00:17:15.120] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah, probably. It’s probably fucking mouse poisoning them.

[00:17:19.540] – Interviewer
Feral cats.

[00:17:21.610] – Shane Cuthbert
Yes.

[00:17:23.700] – Interviewer
And so you found these dead cats. And then you have picked them up with your hands. Were they all like rotting and smelly and shit? Like, with maggots coming out of them? Were they freshly dead? Were they stiff? Like had riga mortis set in? Like, what the hell? You just picked up a dead cat with what? Fucking maggots hanging out of its arse and everything?

[00:17:46.310] – Shane Cuthbert
Ah, no, they haven’t been that old.

[00:17:49.890] – Interviewer
Oh, so it’s a fresh kill?

[00:17:51.770] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah.

[00:17:52.990] – Interviewer
And you’re telling me you didn’t kill them? You just found them. They had just recently deceased.

[00:17:58.550] – Interviewer
Yeah

[00:17:58.800] – Interviewer
Just decided to lay down and thought, “You know what? This is my time.” Died of fucking natural causes. And you’ve come along and found them dead. Like, they’re not half dead. They’re completely deceased. Picked the fucking thing up with your bare hands. Like, did you at least, I don’t know, use gloves or something? I’m trying to get a visual image of how you would do this. I can’t imagine just going out picking up dead animals.

[00:18:28.750] – Shane Cuthbert
Ah fuck, I can’t remember.

[00:18:29.770] – Interviewer
Then you grabbed it and what, just…

[00:18:31.490] – Shane Cuthbert
Probably with a stick or a shovel or something. I don’t know.

[00:18:35.010] – Interviewer
All right. And what? Flung it on his car?

[00:18:38.760] – Shane Cuthbert
(laughs) Carefully placed.

[00:18:40.060] – Interviewer
Oh,carefully placed. (laughs) Where, like on his windshield or something?

[00:18:47.010] – Shane Cuthbert
I’m looking at this legislation here.

[00:18:51.560] – Interviewer
Wait where did you place the dead cats? Who does that?

[00:18:56.820] – Shane Cuthbert
Oh, on his windscreen.

[00:18:58.040] – Interviewer
On his windscreen. Nothing on his front doorstep?

[00:19:00.450] – Shane Cuthbert
Oh yeah, on his front doorstep, too. Yeah.

[00:19:04.600] – Interviewer
How many dead cats…

[00:19:04.630] – Shane Cuthbert
He’s got camera’s everywhere now, so I’ve got to be real careful about it. I got to go dress up first.

[00:19:09.650] – Interviewer
Oh, he’s got cameras?

[00:19:10.920] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah.

[00:19:12.630] – Interviewer
So you’ve got to what? Put a balaclava on and shit? Try to hide?

[00:19:16.070] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah.

[00:19:19.970] – Interviewer
He doesn’t have any pets, does he? Like is he an animal person?

[00:19:29.780] – Shane Cuthbert
Oh, my fucking God. Standing order 287. If I show up to Queensland Parliament, for example, the max fine, the max penalty is 10 penalty units, which is, I think, a penalty unit now is 40 bucks or something like that. It’s a few hundred bucks. But if the speaker orders a sergeant at arms to take you into custody, you can only be released by the direction of the speaker or order of the House’. (laughs) So Mr. Speaker has the power to take you into custody until whenever he wants. (laughs) Now, that is absolutely ridiculous. I’m just thinking now I should just rock up while channel 7 News is there and just be arrested for doing nothing.

[00:20:29.920] – Interviewer
The role is called a Sergeant at Arms?

[00:20:35.510] – Shane Cuthbert
Yes. Yes. The Sergeant at Arms or any other officer of the house authorized by the speaker or the clerk is authorized to take a person in breach of standing order who is disrupting or about to disrupt the proceedings of the house into custody or direct others to take a person into custody and shall report immediately to the speaker. The speaker shall report to the house when any person has been taken into custody. Okay, so the house can then make an order. So I guess that’s the members of parliament in there can then make it. How embarrassing would this be for the speaker? Like, you’d have all the media there. Look, we’ve just had to take Shane Cuthbert into custody. He hasn’t done anything. And then at that point, there’s members of parliament there and also LNP members that I recently met with last week. Actually, I’ve even got a meeting with the Greens, Amy McMahon and Michael Berkman as well coming up. I’ve met Michael before. But they’ll be like, “Wait, we know that guy. What did he do? What’s he in there for?” And then the media will be like, “Oh, my God, someone’s been taken into custody.” Like, that’ll be on the They’ll be asking the speaker for comment, and he’ll be like, “Oh, no comment. Ah, we thought he was going to disrupt the thing.” Then I’m going to get out and say, “Look, this is just more discrimination by the Australian Labor Party. I have sued them. I was a member. I was a very hard-working and proud Labor member. I have sued them asking for my membership back, and now they’re just throwing me out of Parliament. The democratic process, and they have thrown me out for no reason. My behavior has been nothing but exemplary.” This is also retarded. This is actually retardation.

[00:22:52.540] – Interviewer
All right. Here’s the third thing that I think you should probably consider. Currently, you make your money through Centrelink, right?

[00:23:03.620] – Shane Cuthbert
Yes.

[00:23:04.640] – Interviewer
You don’t have any actual financial income through any of these business ventures that they’re trying to investigate?

[00:23:12.130] – Shane Cuthbert
No.

[00:23:12.830] – Interviewer
You’re on Ceno?

[00:23:14.170] – Shane Cuthbert
Yes.

[00:23:15.230] – Interviewer
And are you getting the doll or are you getting student allowance?

[00:23:18.030] – Shane Cuthbert
I’m a student on a student allowance.

[00:23:20.650] – Interviewer
All right. Now, student allowance is one of the lowest Ceno income. It doesn’t pay very well.

[00:23:28.600] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah.

[00:23:30.530] – Interviewer
Have you ever asked Jay Morgan how much he gets for being on disability?

[00:23:34.050] – Shane Cuthbert
Oh he gets like fucking nearly 1,500 bucks a fortnight. Yeah.

[00:23:39.530] – Interviewer
Now, here’s the thing. This is a very strange thing. I don’t know how to best articulate this, but when was the last time you were able to hold down a job?

[00:24:00.590] – Shane Cuthbert
I have not worked for…

[00:24:03.190] – Interviewer
You’re 32 now. When in your adult life have you been able to hold down a job?

[00:24:09.240] – Shane Cuthbert
I have not. I mean I did some construction stuff a little bit here and there, like a few years ago. That’s about it.

[00:24:18.930] – Interviewer
A few days here and there, right. So in your entire…

[00:24:22.710] – Shane Cuthbert
And I’ve done contracting. So no, I have not had a job since… I don’t know, maybe since I was 18 or 19 or something.

[00:24:31.460] – Interviewer
So like KFC or something like that.

[00:24:33.090] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah.

[00:24:33.680] – Interviewer
And even then, you weren’t able to hold that down. You were there for a little while, but then you lost the plot. And then since then…

[00:24:42.170] – Shane Cuthbert
Yep

[00:24:43.250] – Interviewer
…even when you’re doing landscaping and stuff, you weren’t able to maintain that. You’ve never actually been able to maintain any kind of consistent form of employment or income at all.

[00:24:53.750] – Shane Cuthbert
But I have maintained Centrelink. (laughs)

[00:24:55.870] – Interviewer
Yes.

[00:24:58.450] – Interviewer
Now, here’s the thing.