Shane Cuthbert admits to infiltrating the legal system, collecting blackmail material, and faking credentials to gain influence. 

🔊In this recording, we hear Shane Cuthbert:

• Admit he’s infiltrating the legal system to gather “dirt” on judges for future use: “I am trying to get as much dirt on everybody and infiltrate every aspect of society.”
• Says he takes strategic photos with magistrates to later claim conflicts of interest in court.
• Brags about being a police informant and using it to manipulate Liquor & Gaming investigations.
• Confirms he submitted 20+ fake award nominations using others’ names, including while they were in jail.
• Admits to faking legitimacy with volunteer shirts and Parliament event photos for political campaigns.
• Filed a Supreme Court lawsuit after a raid and forced police to return his laptop via settlement.
• Used political contacts during the raid to intimidate investigators: “I was on to the Commissioner, the Attorney General…”
• Mocked and filmed police during street arrests, quoting legislation to provoke them.
• Says his laptop contained lawsuits and a letter for a jailed associate, all deleted by police.
• Laughs about faking credentials: “They’re all my certificates and award nominations… probably 20 I did myself.”

⚖️Crimes Committed by Shane Cuthbert

Based on the admissions Shane Cuthbert makes in this conversation alone, he has broken the following laws:

Offence	Description	Maximum Penalty
Forgery (s.488 Criminal Code Qld)	Admits forging ~20 award nominations using other people’s names without consent.	14 years imprisonment
Impersonation (s.512 Criminal Code Qld)	Discusses impersonating or being confused with others and exploiting it to collect information.	3 years imprisonment
Abuse of Public Office / Corrupt Influence (common law or misconduct in public office principles)	Brags about using government connections to intimidate or pressure investigators.	Up to 7 years (depends on charges laid)
Obstructing Police (s.790 Police Powers and Responsibilities Act Qld)	Confesses to interfering with police during Indigenous arrests; admits to a conviction.	1 year imprisonment or 40 penalty units
Attempted Perverting the Course of Justice (common law)	Admits to infiltrating legal and political institutions with intent to influence court outcomes or charges.	Up to life imprisonment (if proven at higher scale)
False or Misleading Statements (s.24 Oaths Act 1867 Qld / s.137.1 Criminal Code Cth)	Likely breached if forged certificates or made false declarations to gain awards or recognition.	5 years (Cth) / 7 years (Qld)

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[00:00:00.000] – Interviewer
How many subjects have you failed?

[00:00:01.560] – Shane Cuthbert
We actually did legal..ah, what subject did we do? We actually did a subject where basically we got taught, like, if it looks like it could be a potential conflict, like oh you, there’s a photo of you on Facebook having a beer with the judge at a birthday party three years ago, and someone could potentially raise that and say, “Oh, you guys are buddies. You could talk about the case.” Then you’ve got to step away from the case. That’s the general rule. That’s what we got taught as students. I actually met this morning my mentor for the first time. I’ve been given a mentor…

[00:00:37.160] – Interviewer
Yeah

[00:00:37.570] – Shane Cuthbert
…and he thought it was a bit of a conflict. He was like, “Oh, look, if yas were both lawyers, probably not. But given the fact that you are a student, you’re in a more sorta vulnerable position.” So here’s this… student. (laughs) The lecturer basically should have knew better and should have said, “Oh, look, …shoulda said I can’t work on this case because this guy’s one of my students.”

[00:01:06.090] – Interviewer
Mmm

[00:01:07.000] – Shane Cuthbert
Might not be seen too favorably by the courts. I mean it won’t change any outcome. But look, here, and here’s another thing. This, this is another reason I think why I’m under investigation is I’m a member of all the, um, law associations, right. And so I go and I’ve been getting photos with judges and magistrates. And when I got raided, the first thing I was asking for was a copy of the warrant. Now, they refused to give it to me because they said, “Well, you’re not the owner of the premises.” So they just refused to give me anything. And then I was saying, “Ahh, who’s the magistrate? Who’s on the warrant? I’ll give him a call. Who is it?” And then while they were standing there, I called one of my friends that works in Department of Premier and cabinet, and I had him on loudspeaker. “So look, I just got Liquour and Gaming and about eight police officers here at the moment. I’m getting raided. It’s all bullshit. But, you know, do you still know someone that works at um, the office of the Commissioner?” Then, because they took my laptop, I was on to the Commissioner, the Attorney General. So they had these investigators that would have had people much higher up than them asking, “What the fuck is going on? Who’s this Shane Cuthbert guy? Why have you taken his laptop?” And then I sued them in the Supreme Court of Queensland, and they settled outside of court and gave me my laptop back straight away. So little things like that, just, it pisses them off, but then makes them think, “What the fuck is going on?

[00:02:39.670] – Interviewer
Right

[00:02:40.500] – Shane Cuthbert
What the fuck is going on here? Who is this Shane Cuthbert guy?”

[00:02:47.470] – Interviewer
Right

[00:02:48.300] – Shane Cuthbert
But yeah, I am strategically getting photos with all the magistrates and judges, so I know that down the track, if I get something that isn’t really going my way or it doesn’t look like it’s favorable, let’s say I get arrested for something again. (laughs)

[00:03:04.690] – Interviewer
Yeah

[00:03:05.400] – Shane Cuthbert
And the judge is just looking like, “Oh, yeah, Mr. Cuthbert, nah, you’ve, you’ve been a bad boy.” (laughs) I can whip out, “Oh, well, Your Honor, that’s actually brings me to my next point. This is us having a couple beers and, you know, whether or not we talk about the case. It looks like a conflict, could be a conflict. You might have to stand down.” So, I am trying to get as much dirt on everybody and infiltrate every aspect of society to just use it to my advantage one day. They’re not entirely wrong, like..(laughs). Like even just the fact I’ve been talking to Major Organized Crime, I’d use that to my advantage because I went to see the major organized crime here locally who knew nothing about me. And then they would obviously get in contact with Brisbane or you know, whoever I’d spoke to. And then relay that, they were having to then relay that to Liquour and Gaming to be like, “Oh hey, so he’s got some messages there. He’s an informant that he’s meant to delete, but he hasn’t deleted them. So you’re going to see them and you’re going to see that he’s an informant and you’re going to see that he’s an informant. You know, you need to keep that stuff top secret. And, I’m just using that as another angle of them thinking, “Oh, what the fuck?”

[00:04:25.970] – Interviewer
Wait, is Liquour and Gaming a state thing or federal thing?

[00:04:29.080] – Shane Cuthbert
State.

[00:04:30.280] – Interviewer
Right.

[00:04:32.070] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah, state.

[00:04:35.680] – Interviewer
Office of Liquour and Gaming Regulation. They’ve got two stars on Google. Two stars, only four reviews.

[00:04:46.310] – Shane Cuthbert
Okay, how do I click on this? One reminder. When is it going to come up? Yeah, meeting details. I’ve got a meeting in 10 minutes with the… Who is this woman? Someone at Parliament. So parliament is coming to Cairns next week.

[00:05:11.610] – Interviewer
Parliament is coming to Cairns.

[00:05:13.130] – Shane Cuthbert
Bringing the whole Parliament to the Cairns Convention Center. I was going to go anyway I got an email saying they wanted some volunteers, and for the volunteers, you get a, a shirt with Queensland Parliament on it. I’m just going to get some photos of that shirt of Queensland Parliament on it um, for my my election campaign.(laughs)

[00:05:56.540] – Interviewer
(Yawns) I think I saw something of you on there’s Facebook or TikTok or something like that, and there’s lots of umm, it must have been only recently.There’s lots of, umm.. in the background on your wall, there’s like frames of certificates and stuff like that. What are they?

[00:06:15.330] – Shane Cuthbert
So they’re all my certificates and award nominations and…

[00:06:19.220] – Interviewer
All right.

[00:06:20.420] – Shane Cuthbert
Someone for being a finalist.

[00:06:23.400] – Interviewer
So they’re mostly award nomination certificates stuff?

[00:06:26.430] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah.

[00:06:27.190] – Interviewer
And these are nominations for awards that you nominated yourself using my name and Rob Pynes?

[00:06:34.820] – Shane Cuthbert
(laughs) Yeah. There’s a couple of certificates there.

[00:06:39.090] – Interviewer
Wait, how many of them did you nominate yourself for using my name whilst I was in jail?

[00:06:43.920] – Shane Cuthbert
Oh, fuck. I don’t know. Probably 20.

[00:06:48.650] – Interviewer
And there’s no way that they can check. Like I’ve never received any… no one’s ever contacted me, to clarify, or you’ve given them a different contact.

[00:06:56.930] – Shane Cuthbert
(laughs) Well, I was trying to think. I remember the Australia Day Awards a couple years ago. You had one called you only just to work out whether or not I was under 30 and meant to be in the young Australian category or something.

[00:07:10.410] – Interviewer
Yeah somebody called me and said I’d apparently nominated you for two separate age categories and what age were you? And I just said, “umm,he’s both.” (laughs) I didn’t know what the fuck it was. Like, I didn’t even know what the hell the award was in the first place. So I just, I didn’t know what to say.

[00:07:29.650] – Shane Cuthbert
The last, the last twelve months, I’ve just been infiltrating society. Like, the stories I could tell you are so great. I’ve become a respected member of the community in some circles. (laughs)

[00:07:52.350] – Interviewer
Right. (laughs) You’ve infiltrated society.

[00:07:55.940] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah, I’ve just been doing some shit. I think that the police fucking hate it.

[00:07:59.150] – Interviewer
The police? Why? What’s their involvement with it? You mean the guys that you were informing to?

[00:08:10.660] – Shane Cuthbert
No, not them, but just general police. You know, um, they they don’t like me. I was out in town the other night and I was getting photos with their car that they left unattended. And they come back and one of these cops was trying to be smart to me or something. I was like, “Oh, actually, I know how to do your job better than you do, and this is what you do.” And he was like, “No, mate, I’m a police officer. You don’t know anything.” And then the senior cop comes over and he’s like, “Ahh look, it’s ahh, it’s Shane Cuthbert.” Umm, he didn’t call me a backyard lawyer that time. He called me, a, fuck what do you call it? Like a vigilante lawyer or something. I was like, “Yeah, okay, that sounds like me.” So regularly, I’ll go into town and they’ll be arresting some Aboriginal woman, and I start filming it and telling them, “Oh, yeah actually no, under the PPRA, you didn’t do this and you didn’t do that.” And oh the up them there, and they get, quite, ah, upset with me about that.

[00:09:08.020] – Interviewer
Right. But have they ever arrested you or have a go at you or threatened you or anything?

[00:09:12.900] – Shane Cuthbert
No. The last time I got arrested was that time last year, remember. Remember I got found guilty of that? Of the…

[00:09:20.840] – Interviewer
No.

[00:09:22.890] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah, remember there was the Abo’s out in the street…

[00:09:25.320] – Interviewer
Yeah I remember that, but I didn’t know you got found guilty. Wait, what did you get charged with?

[00:09:33.260] – Shane Cuthbert
They dropped the….ahh, there was a public nuisance and then at, then a-

[00:09:37.280] – Interviewer
Resist police?

[00:09:38.710] – Shane Cuthbert
No ah, getting there.. obstruct police.

[00:09:42.650] – Interviewer
Right.

[00:09:46.230] – Shane Cuthbert
Um, Yeah.

[00:09:47.500] – Interviewer
And you got found guilty of both?

[00:09:49.660] – Shane Cuthbert
No, no they dropped, they dropped the public nuisance, and then they found me guilty of the, ah, obstruct police.

[00:09:57.680] – Interviewer
Okay.

[00:09:58.700] – Shane Cuthbert
But then the magistrate was like “I don’t know why this guy’s here. The way those security guards were throwing around our indigenous peoples, you know, they should have been charged instead.” Um, and the prosecutor was like, “Oh, we just haven’t received a complaint. We’d be happy to.” So I went to the police station and complained. And then they got back to me and were like, “Oh, yeah, no, we’re not going to charge the, ah, security guards.” So now I’m going to probably sue them at some point as well. But I had all these lawsuits on the go, like getting ready to go on my laptop. And then they took it. And when I got it back, all this stuff was deleted.

[00:10:33.860] – Interviewer
And you didn’t have backups?

[00:10:35.400] – Shane Cuthbert
Including a letter for you, actually. I think it was like the day or two before you had caught and you needed a letter. And I had it open on my desktop. So when they opened my computer, the first thing they would have seen was this letter to Stuart Adams, this guy that is obviously in prison. Like, they would have read the letter. Um, and I’d outlined in the letter what I’d seen, what I hadn’t seen, like whatever. So they would have been like, that would have been the first thing that they would have looked at and been like, “Oh, okay, so this is some other criminal that’s in jail, and he’s like writing a letter trying to get him out.”

[00:11:11.010] – Interviewer
So I got, I got one month jail for ah, Resist Police. I got one month jail for breach of AVO.

[00:11:18.210] – Shane Cuthbert
Why do that?

[00:11:20.020] – Interviewer
He gave me an aggregate sentence. So I got one month for punching Melody’s dad in the head. Because I was still on a CCO for that at the time. And so because I breached that CCO, he resentenced me. So he resentenced me to a month jail for punching Peter, Peter um, not Peter Busch sorry. Melody’s dad in the head. A months jail for resist police. A month’s jail for ahh, breach AVO. And the rest of it was for the use offensive weapon. Yep, he didn’t believe that my intentions for bringing a Citronel oil candle with me were to actually repel mosquitoes. He didn’t believe.. because it was the middle of winter, I should have really just used Aeroguard and didn’t believe that the mosquito problem was sufficient to warrant using a $13 waxworth Citronela oil burner. I was really there to use the oil burner to make Peter Busch think that I was going to set him on fire.

[00:12:30.720] – Shane Cuthbert
Yep. Oh actually, I had an interesting chat with him recently.

[00:12:37.370] – Interviewer
With who was who?

[00:12:38.580] – Shane Cuthbert
With Peter.

[00:12:40.230] – Interviewer
Oh, really?

[00:12:41.270] – Shane Cuthbert
He called me thinking I was Jay Morgan, obviously.

[00:12:44.770] – Interviewer
When was this?

[00:12:46.170] – Shane Cuthbert
It would have been the day that Tyler got out because he was trying to organize Jay Morgan to go down and meet him at the train station.

[00:12:53.490] – Interviewer
A couple of weeks ago.

[00:12:55.080] – Shane Cuthbert
Because he was like, “Oh, yeah ah, you talk to ah, you live in here in town somewhere.” I was like, “No, I live in Cairns”. He was like, “What? What are you doing in Cairns?” I was like, “I’ve been in Cairns for six years.” He’s like, “Oh, jeez, I didn’t know that.” He’s talking about all sorts of stuff and Shanel and all sorts. And then in the end, he goes, I’m on the phone to him for about half an hour. He just kept talking about stuff and what do we, how do we help him and all this stuff. Then in the end, he goes, “Oh, yeah, how’s the Donald Trump thing going?” And I was like, “Oh, you’re talking about Jay.” And he goes, “Yeah, that’s you, right?” I was like, “No, it’s Shane.” He’s like, “Oh, what?” Then he got all confused and hung up. (laughs)

[00:13:38.680] – Interviewer
For half an hour, he’d been talking to you thinking you were Jay Morgan?

[00:13:41.850] – Shane Cuthbert
Yes.

[00:13:44.870] – Interviewer
That’s a stupid, stupid man.

[00:13:46.630] – Shane Cuthbert
I wouldn’t even think that he would know Jay Morgan. Like, at least me, I’ve met Peter a lot. I went to school with Tyler. I’ve been to their house. I’ve spoken to him. I spoke to him last year. Remember, I was on the train coming down, I was calling him. But yeah, that’s why I thought it was all odd.

[00:14:06.330] – Interviewer
You were on the train coming down?

[00:14:09.570] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah. I was in the central Coast, and I was coming down to Sydney the day you got arrested.

[00:14:13.890] – Interviewer
All right.

[00:14:14.450] – Shane Cuthbert
I was on the train and I was calling them.

[00:14:17.800] – Interviewer
And did you end up speaking to him?

[00:14:18.860] – Shane Cuthbert
I was calling him, telling him to go outside, remember?

[00:14:21.420] – Interviewer
Did you end up speaking to him?

[00:14:24.340] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah, I spoke to him then, yeah. He was like, “I’ve got nothing to talk to Stuart about.”

[00:14:29.440] – Interviewer
Right.

[00:14:30.020] – Shane Cuthbert
So yeah, so it was all… funny.

[00:14:36.980] – Interviewer
Yeah right.

[00:14:38.000] – Shane Cuthbert
How did he join this meeting?

[00:14:39.680] – Interviewer
So he didn’t recognize you. He fair dinkum thought you were Jay Morgan the whole time?

[00:14:43.630] – Shane Cuthbert
Yep.

[00:14:44.080] – Interviewer
And then when you told him who you were, you just hung up?

[00:14:46.860] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah

[00:14:47.350] – Interviewer
He didn’t say, “Oh, whoops, sorry about that. Take care. See you later.”

[00:14:55.100] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah, about, oh I’m going to say probably about a month ago now

[00:14:59.210] – Interviewer
Yep

[00:14:59.210] – Shane Cuthbert
I got some random calls from a random number. And so I called it back and guess who it was.

[00:15:07.430] – Interviewer
Ben.

[00:15:08.570] – Shane Cuthbert
Yes. (laughs)

[00:15:12.580] – Interviewer
Right

[00:15:12.750] – Shane Cuthbert
He was ah, he was up here doing some splashy-splash. Well, he wasn’t quite here. He was in Airlie Beach and Townsville. And um, so that was interesting. He just thought, “Oh, I’ve just been reminded of what we used to do and”…. oh see, this is another thing that was getting me real paranoid because it was at the same time, really, like I was getting raided, all this stuff was going on, and then I was like, “Oh what if they’ve contacted Ben and then they’ve got him to call me to see what I admit to that we used to do back in the day or something?” I was just getting real paranoid because I was like, Oh, all of this stuff is happening at the same time. It was all very interesting.

[00:16:03.660] – Interviewer
Right

[00:16:04.700] – Shane Cuthbert
Um, but anyway, and then I haven’t heard from him since so…

[00:16:06.850] – Interviewer
He just said, “Oh I’m just up in North Queensland on some holidays, and I was thinking about you, and I thought, I just call you all of a sudden.”

[00:16:15.520] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah.

[00:16:19.390] – Interviewer
And that was it?

[00:16:21.090] – Shane Cuthbert
Yep.

[00:16:22.520] – Interviewer
Did you ask him where is he living? How is he surviving? What’s he doing?

[00:16:27.170] – Shane Cuthbert
He’s a real estate agent. Um, down south somewhere.

[00:16:34.330] – Interviewer
Down south in Sydney, or..

[00:16:36.520] – Shane Cuthbert
Yeah, yeah by the sounds of it and um, yeah

[00:16:43.270] – Interviewer
He’s a real estate agent?

[00:16:45.550] – Shane Cuthbert
Fuck, man. Where’s the fuck calls?

[00:16:49.590] – Interviewer
How would Ben be a real estate agent?

[00:16:53.460] – Shane Cuthbert
I don’t know.

[00:16:54.870] – Interviewer
A real estate agent or like he, he just, he’s a real estate mogul?

[00:16:58.500] – Shane Cuthbert
I’ll have to call you back. I got to go in this meeting.

[00:17:01.410] – Interviewer
Alright. No worries.